that is all irrelevant.yes protein is a key dietary requirement for builing muscle but it is also key for repairing them.
all athletes use their muscles wether they are stength conditioning,speed conditioning, building endurace, sharpening their reflexes ect. everytime we use our muscles they become damaged and need repairing asap in order for the physical side of training to pay off.the quicker the muscle fibers repair the quicker they can be damaged to be repaired again.speeding this proccess up would help athletes get more out of training by enabling them to hone their skills and attributes quicker and thus allowing them to acheive a great physical state in a shorter amount of time.
and thats were the whey protein shakes come in.the body absorbs whey protein quicker than any other form of protein.the quickest absorbing unrefined protein used to be egg whites that is until man started extracting pure whey protein from milk.the speed at which the body absobs whey is unrivaled.
because of this whey protein is a clear advancment in nutrition any athlete is better off with it than without it.
the joe louis ect argument is also bs.many old timers are superior to todays crowd for many other reasons.if they had access to modern nutrition back then it would have improved them as athletes which is scary to think about.
that he would go go out of his way to try and ivalidate what you said about protein shakes shows that he's just someone who acts like he knows what he is talking about but hasn't actually got a clue
I most certainly have fought in many boxing competitions, probably for the bones of nearly 30yrs!
My top contributor badge has been removed as I was in Italy for a while..
Couple of points I must respond to:
1) A TC badge is awarded by the amount of questions the contributor answers - Not the quality of the contents.
2) Most guys on here have boxers they support through thick and thin (Including myself here) - These answers are bound to be bias.
3) I guess you are not a Pacquaio fan?? That doesn't give you the right to unload on him...?? Manny Pac didn't get to the highest level without knowing a thing or two...
4) You have to chill out man... Accept that fellow boxing fans have different opinions than yourself _ Nothing wrong with that,,,
5) Sometimes the guys that never ducked between the ropes, have the best insight to the sport... Some of my non-boxing buddies have amazing, valid opinions....
I'm almost 60 years old and work out at least 4 days a week sometimes doing about 2 mile runs or so and regularly do 70 pushups without stop. Boxing is something that I love and have loved since I as a kid and I used to box anyone that would box me. Later on I did do some boxing while I was serving in the Navy. Everybody has their own ideas about what they think is best for training but I believe in the old school method of training (roadwork, bag work etc) Weights aren't something new. I mean just look at Holyfield for instance whereas some fighters think it will make this less mobile perhaps.
LOL Ok who's the jerk who gave me a thumbs down? I challenge you right now and I aint chicken either!
Protein shakes aren't bad. I use to take em to get up in weight for tournaments. I use weights for getting cut and lean. Which is why I am 6% body fat. What I don't like is boxers using weights for bulking up as if they'll have an advantage carrying all that muscle. When in fact it makes em slow as **** and it'll slow their reflexes down as well. And they'll tire faster. But weights are excellent for getting cut and proteins shakes contribute to weight gain when needed. That's just how it works for me. My coach taught me all this and I've boxed since I was 11. And I'm undefeated with 60 amateur fights. And I'll soon seek promoters to become pro. Maybe you have a different intake but through my experience that's what weights and protein shakes have shown to me.
Get that dick out of your mouth Cali D. Being a top contributor isn't seen about knowledge, its about answering as many **** as possible with in a given time. Also, you don't have to bust our heads about how much you hate Pacquiao, if you hate him then keep hatin, you figure its unbiased but it is actually BIASED against Pacquiao you dim wit.
You know, good that you box, good that you compete but so do a million other boxers that train and compete. So what makes you so special from the bunch??
weight training can always be beneficial....
but overtraining and gaining excessive bulk IS bad for boxing. increased muscle mass decreases flexibility, and also sucks up more oxygen from your body. in a fight between a musclebound guy, and a marathon runner, if the fight lasted into the later rounds, it would greatly favor the marathon runner because of stamina purposes.
as for your protien comment: overuse of protien to increase weight and size can have long term effects on the liver. Packeow's own trainer, Freddie Roach has expressed concern over this
We don't have to have pro boxing experience....this is more like boxing talk and questions and giving eachother our opinion on a matter. Who faulk do you think you is homo?
Backyard boxing is all me and my boys did back in the days but you give what you learned from your experience to someone who is about to go into a backyard boxing BBQ. So you can take your Q here and your stupid Cal'd nickname and shove it real deep up your stinkin stained @sshole.
Trust me you aren't the only person here who trains like a ***** to end up getting nowhere. So to say most people here dont know anything is bollocks when you don't know a single thing about anyone on here, i guarantee some of the people here one on one in a ring would send you home crying. Just because you have sparred a couple of times that doesn't mean you are capable of beating the world, your shadow boxing sessions dont change a thing!
I'm sorry if it isn't my place to say this, because I'm not a top contributor, but I don't agree with a few things you said. Firstly, I believe that protein shakes aren't ideal for boxing, (I don't take them) mainly because of the fact that these promote muscle growth and development, whereas boxing isn't about big, ripped, jacked muscles. It is all about hard punching power, fast punching speed, pinpoint punching accuracy, graceful footwork, steady balance, untouchable defence, and superb levels of conditioning. I don't see where taking protein shakes come into that equation, and don't say it develops punching power, because what develops power in a lot of heavy bag work, push - ups, lunges, calf raises, and a diet consisting of a lot of meat, 'That's' where your protein comes from, in my opinion, not a shake with a promotional bodybuilder on the back of the bottle, and that's just it, if you want to take these shakes in a 'Sport', try the sport of bodybuilding, where I would agree with you taking them, (To a level) definitely not in boxing. And about weight lifting. Not saying this refers to every boxer, but I've recently quit weight lifting, and have converted to pure calisthenics for strength training, because I'm being forced to sit here on my *** after recently encountering 4 torn nerves and ligaments, and muscle damage in my lower back, after an unfortunate encounter with a leg press 'Weight machine'. Yes I said it, I used to lift weights, and although the injury was caused by poor technique on my part, it has permanently put me off weights, and I always believed that calisthenics could be just as beneficial as weight lifting, even when I was lifting weights myself. So, in conclusion:
1. Joe Louis, 'The Brown Bomber' was ranked by 'Ring Magazine' as the hardest puncher in boxing history, with 52 of his 66 wins coming by way of knockout. He was boxing from 1934 to 1951, do you really think he was hitting the gym with a bottle of Lucozade Sport in one hand, and a can of Maxi-muscle in the other? No, more than likely, his diet consisted of water, raw eggs, and natural meat.
2. Muhammad Ali, surly you have heard of Muhammad Ali? Well 'The Greatest' was ranked the greatest pound for pound heavyweight of all time by 'Ring Magazine' and 'ESPN', and he never, ever lifted any weights of any kind. Keep in mind, Ali was fighting against the likes of George Foreman and Sonny Liston, both of whom are way up there on a lot of hardest punchers lists, from a lot of prominent boxing organisations, and they both lifted weights, Ali didn't, but be knocked them both out with 'Lightning Fast' punches, which weights won't achieve (Lightning fast punches, I mean).
Beginning to see a slight pattern with your arguments, in contrast to my arguments, judging by these examples?
Again though, if it wasn't my place to say this, I'm sorry for that, but I may not be a top contributor, but on the other hand, I know my fair share about boxing and boxing history, and I just had to get this point across.
Most of your answers are completely stupid, brainwashed by media, blinded and just plain lame. I heard one of you say protein shakes weren't good for boxing. meanwhile, pacquiao swears by them. I heard one of you say, weights are bad for boxing, meanwhile Mosely used to brag about 300 lbs bench press. I can't think of all the stupid things you say, but it's rare I see a top contributer in this section that knows what they are talking about.
