And I agree all this clinching and pushing absolutely sucks, to have to call this fight a heavyweight championship of the world (with this tremendous history behind it) is a huge shame. I don't know what it was, but what I saw shouldn't be considered a professional boxing match.
Whatever, kind regards from germany!
I too was disgusted with the leniency shown by the referee and the blatant pushing over of Povetkin that was ruled a knockdown, the 7th round I had to score 10-6 because the ref kept counting Povetkin even though he was blatantly shoved 1 of those 3 times and for me only 1 of those 3 were genuine knockdowns. The other two illegal.
But look, that's what makes Klitschko the best, he uses his physical strengths to advantages, I was thinking mid-way that Povetkin must be absolutely shattered in there for all the leaning on him & pushing around Wlad was doing.
I rate Povetkin, he's still the 3rd best heavyweight in the world and has so much heart and great conditioning for a heavyweight. He came out swinging every round and at the end of the 12th I had it 117-108 for Klitschko.
I don't think Klitschko should have been DQ'd well not immediately, he should have been warned, deducted points and if it continued after 2-3 points were deducted then sure, a DQ would be justified.
I found myself feeling physically sick watching that fight yesterday, not just from Wlad's performance, but the ref's. it was absolutely disgusting how he just allowed Wlad to ruin what could have been a decent HW bout in today's standards.
The only question is, if the referee had actually done his job and warned Klitchko as soon as he started that, would he have carried on doing it until he gets disqualified?
IMO, no.
Wlad is a smart guy, he knew he was probably going to win it with or without holding, so he wasn't going to throw those belts away because he refused to listen to the ref and not stop clinching. But the warnings and point deductions never came (until it was too late) so he kept on doing what he did.
But again, Wlad is a very smart guy and knew full well what he was doing and that that no one could or would appreciate it. He found out early on that the ref was going to be extremely lenient towards him, so he played it safe and you can't hold him down for that. It was the referee's incompetence that we should be more angry at, he was more of a f*cking chearleader.
In boxing the rules are that a referee must call time out and give two verbal warnings signaling to the judges that is a warning after the second the referee must then verbally state next time its going to be a point. The referee didn't even give Wladimir Klitscko a single warning that I saw for pushing down on Povetkin so why would he even think twice about something that he is doing that obviously is to his advantage that he isn't getting points deducted for?
No he couldn't be disqualified by the rules of professional boxing for anything that he is not given a verbal warning for even biting as even in the case of biting off a piece of Evander Holyfield ear Mike Tyson was told that he would be disqualified next time he bit Holyfield and had 2 points deducted.
DQ'ed, no. BUT, he should've had another point deducted (at least).
It's not even so much that that annoys me. It's that he was content to just lean on/push on Povetkin while on the inside, as opposed to busting him with uppercuts or plain bashing him w/ punches.
Here's the problem, I EXPECT this from Wlad. He's got a lot of knockouts, but he should have a lot of knockouts. The guy is highly superior to everyone in the division, besides his bro of course.
Despite that, he's ugly, has no inside game besides shoving people to the ground, and literally has no bodywork (he threw no bodyshots today, which is unheard of).
Wlad deserves 95% of the blame for this ugly and vomit inducing fight. TBH though, Povetkin is UGLY as well in close. He literally bends over at a 90 degree angle and holds.
You know who didn't fall for that sh*t against Povetkin. The BOSS Marco Huck, not the conservative and pathetically hesitant, pushing/holding Klitschko.
You want to play that sh*t against Huck? He won't push you, he'll bash you in the back/side of the head or kidney and make you pay for leaning like that.
I don't condone punching someone in the brain stem, but Huck is a crude killer and won't just shove you to the ground, which I'd highly prefer over throwing someone to the ground.
I knew this type of fight had a good chnace of happening, so in anyone's right mind it's obvious you can't go too hard on Wlad by stoppage, despite being what I expected to happen.That's why I bet w/ the -12 1/2 Wlad point handicap, so I'd win no matter what (save a hail mary Povetkin KO).
Wlad is ugly. He's a nice guy, but he's got he worst killer instinct in the sport and has ugly fights, despite being in a sh*t division and hurting basically ever opponent he faces. The one bet I'm always cautious to lay money on is Wlad by decision.
he clearly dominated...but i too thought he did way to much clinching, and pushing
a man of his size, reach, and boxing ability should be able to dominate without resorting to such tactics
this fight once again proved Wlads superiority, but did nothing to elevate his status as a fan favorite
once it became obvious Povetkin had nothing, Wlad should have put him away. this is a prime example of why people don't give the Ks any props
Vitali fought absolutley scared against the limited Derrick Chisora
Wlad could not put away blown up cruiser David Haye, who was fighting on a broken toe
and now tonight.....
these boys have had a fine career, and their sheer size would make them competitive in any era against any HW great of the past...
but they are the last two guys whose fights i will pull up on youtube and watch for purely entertainment purposes
these guys are boring, and leave you feeling less than satisfied
they are the Paul Spadafora's of the HW division
Povetkin was going in with his head down as if he wanted to be pushed down though. I dont blame him but more the ref for this.
No, he should have a proper referee who should say DON'T THROW YOUR OPPONENT TO THE FLOOR!!! the first time. And start warning him straight away and then not hesitating to deduct points thereafter. Then wladimir would have to work much harder to win. But he has to protect that glass jaw somehow, and he hasn't got the boxing skills to move out of range properly.
Wlad clinched over 200 times, clinching in boxing is illegal and considered a foul, in any other sport u commit a fraction of a fraction of that many fouls you'd be disqualified.
Thats basic math, but boxing officials are incompetent unprofessional scumbags, they been proven more and more recently that their a joke who dont know how to do their jobs
Yeah their was definitely a lot of illegal activity by Whlad. Not only was he not warned until extremely late, but was rewarded knockdowns. Never seen anything like it. It was a major disgrace to boxing.
I don't think I've ever seen a fight with more clinches, and all coming from Wladimir. Every time Povetkin got in range, Wladimir put Povetkins head under his arm and pushed down on top of him. This must have happened well over 100 times during the fight. I'm surprised Povetkin doesn't have a neck injury now.
On top of that Wladimir pushed Povetkin over 5 times by my count, 3 of which were ruled as knock downs by the ref
only a 1 point deduction in the 11th is disgraceful
The pushing was awful, especially in the 7th. Definitely should have disqualified him.
