At any rate, here's my assessment:
Norwood-Marquez: I thought Marquez should have gotten the win in this fight. Norwood fought more as a spoiler than a defending champion as he held and ran throughout without landing much in return. Marquez had difficulty adjusting to Norwood's spoiler tactics, but he was the aggressor and threw and connected more. The ref also screwed up by failing to call knockdowns scored by Marquez.
Pacquiao-Marquez I: This was a tossup fight and I felt a draw was the appropriate call. Many Pac fans claim Pac deserved the decision because one of the judges made an error on his scorecard, but even if that error had not occurred, the result would have been a split decision with only a single point separating them on the three scorecards, which is as close as a decision can get.
John-Marquez: This was another close fight. If it had been held in Mexico, perhaps the result would have been different, but I think he underestimated John and didn't realize he'd have to endure such an arduous journey to Indonesia where conditions heavily favored John. What I found most controversial about this fight was the way the WBA stripped Marquez of his title without just cause and essentially handed it over to John, which resulted in Marquez agreeing to this fight out of desperation to regain the title under unfavorable conditions.
Pac-Marquez II, II:
I, like most fans and analysts, felt Marquez deserved the decision in both fights. Marquez dictated the action for the majority of those fights, largely neutralizing Pac's blazing speed and power, and used his aggression against him with effective counters.
Bradley-Marquez: Again, I, like most analysts, felt that Bradley deserved the decision. However, it was a much more competitive fight than how the HBO crew called it. Doug Fischer, Al Bernstein, Dan Rafael and Teddy Atlas scored it for Bradley as well, but they all believed that each scorecard was justified and that a split decision was an appropriate call given the close nature of the contest. They observed Marquez landing a greater number of power punches, but had Bradley edging it based on his ring generalship. So from Marquez's own biased perspective, I can understand how he may have felt he deserved the decision, but I guarantee you that if he was in Bradley's shoes, he would 100% believed he earned the win. It is what it is.
I can understand why Marquez has a chip on his shoulder in general, because he's been involved in several close fights, but unlike many other fighters, has never gotten the benefit of a decision. For instance FLoyd got a disputed decision against Castillo in their first fight, Pac got disputed decisions against Marquez twice, Bradley in turn got a disputed decision over Pac and a close call against Ruslan, and you can go on and on. He's probably also bitter because he was stuck fighting in the shadows of Morales and Barrera for so long and was screwed over by his former promoter Bob Arum. As I mentioned before, Marquez was the unified Featherweight champion, but he had his titles stripped because Arum would not put up the money for his mandatory defense, resulting in the sanctioning bodies unfairly taking his hard earned titles and handing them to other fighters.
Also, if Marquez didn't have such a chip on his shoulder, he might not have had the motivation to chase Pac all the way to the welterweight division when everyone was counting him out. Many people thought Pac would make easy work of him, but he proved them wrong and solidified his name in history in the third and final chapter in their legendary rivalry.
I haven't seen the Norwood or John fight. Most observers say he lost closely to Chris and Chris also had the hometown advantage while the Norwood fight should have been Marquez's but it was close. The first two Pacquaio fights were extremely close toss-up matches while the third should have been his. He made the made the mistake of brawling with Pacquiao in the last three rounds because he thought he was so far ahead on the cards. That cost him. The Bradley fight was close but convincingly in Bradley's favour. I had it 116-112.
And l don't know onw person who would say he beat Mayweather. It was utter domination. It could have been a whitewash. Its an even worse schooling than what Donaire had coming to him simply because he went wild and luckingly scored a knockdown.
Totally exaggerated. He was robbed only in the 3rd Pac fight. He was lucky to salvage a draw in the first fight after getting knocked down 3 times in the first round and a judge scoring it 10-7 instead of 10-6. The second fight was close but fairly decided in favor of Pac because of another knockdown. The same goes with the Chris John, Norwood and Floyd fights and, yes, the recent Bradley fight.
I rewatched the Marquez fights against Norwood and Chris John this week and in my opinion he got robbed in both of them. The Norwood fight was very boring but Marquez still was the much more active fighter and won on my scorecard 8 rounds to 2 with 2 rounds even.
The Chris John fight was a little bit closer but I had Marquez winning 7 rounds to 4 with 1 round even. Late in the fight the referee realised that Marquez was hurting John with bodyshots so he deducted 2 points from him for "lowblows" which were bodyshots. And even with those 2 stolen points I had still Marquez winning. 3rd Pacquiao fight was also a robbery, but I scored the first 2 for Pacquiao.
Norwood, Floyd, Bradley clearly beat Márquez
The Chris john fight was pretty close same with Pacquiao 1 if it weren't for the knockdown he probably would've won Pac won the 2nd clearly and Márquez IMO was robbed in the 3rd
Bullsh*t. I like the guy, but Marquez is one of the biggest crybabies in the sport.
The Pacquiao fights were all toss-ups (except the third fight, I thought Marquez got screwed in that fight).
Floyd clearly beat him, and so did Bradley. I've never seen the Norwood fight and don't remember the John fight, so I can't really speak on them.
I thought Chris john won fair and square, PAC won 1 and 2 but lost 3 and 4, I mean his Bradley fight was close, but no robbery. Marquez is just arrogant, that's what makes him good.
The loss to Floyd is also out of the question. As they say in the military, it's crystal that JMM lost that one big time on points.
The loss to Chris John could be argued being held in Indonesia. But with a panel of international neutral judges including two Asians and even a third Latino judge scoring it by an average of five points for John, how could JMM question validly the result of their fight? Note also that John has remained unbeaten as champion since winning the WBA featherweight title in 2003 including that title defense win over Marquez. In fact, John has been undefeated in all his 51 fights with just 3 draws.
Now as to the Pacquiao fights, I think he should have won their first drawn fight and at least extracted a draw in their second fight where he lost his WBC junior lightweight title on close SD. I think Pacquiao beat him in their third fight when JMM blew his slim points lead in the last three rounds by committing the tactical error of going toe to toe with the stronger Pacquiao allowing the Filipino to finish stronger and more impressively.
There's no question in my mind that Bradley deserved the win over JMM and not by SD but by close but unanimous decision. I scored it 118-115 myself.
He did get robbed twice against pac. And against bradley, bradley barely won no robbery. Floyd won.
All i can remember is he robbed pac 1 point on their 1st fight that favored him a draw, so basically, all those rematch pac generously gave him are all nulled & void.
To consider such statement means he got robbed by Floyd, PAc 2x, Indonesia's Chris John, Norwood, now Bradley... His first defeat was via DQ due to consistent low blow he inflicted on his opponent. It was out the topic, so the succeeding loses were the ones JMM was referring to.. Got robbed by MAyweather and PAc?? Really Mr. MArquez? Your thoughts fight fans?
If you don't like the judges then take it out of their hands, and end the fight.
The character of a man is how he faces adversity, and loss.
For someone to blame others for his failures shows a lack of character.
Be a man, admit you lost, improve yourself and move on.
No one likes a whiner.
THIS TRUE. F**K THE HATERS. I ALSO BEEN ROBED SIX TIME IN MY CAREER. LAST TIME AT GAS STATION THEY TAKE THE CIGARETTES AND STILL STAB ME IN LUNG AND PUT A SHOEPRINT ON MY HEAD.
wahhhh.. mama... i lost again because of the greedy judges.. waaaaaaaahhh.. mama... they stole my toy again... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh mama... waaaaahhhhhhhhh...
